The WTF edition  

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It's funny. Everyone who reads my blog and makes a comment to me usually says the same things:

- "WTF????"
- "I don't know how you do it?"
- "Do people really say that stuff?"
- "They can't think that actually works, right?"
- "WTF!!!!!!!!"

It's alarming that people say such incredibly moronic things and expect to get anywhere, but I promise you, they do say it. Do they think their charming messages work? I cannot say for sure, but I suspect they do. I cannot imagine they would say this shit otherwise, but then again, what do I know? I still believe in romance and the novel idea of being respectful and appropriate towards others.

"Hey hey yes I'm looking for purdy girls @ 1:27..." [You know, I don't even care if it's 1:27am.... I do care that you are looking for "purdy" girls. How hard is it to spell out pretty? It's 6 letters as opposed to 5 and you sound moronic saying it like that. Like maybe you don't know the English language. Or like you are a moron. Either way, not a great selling point for dating you.]

My amusement continues with his profile because he lists one of his "turn offs" as "Grammar correction." Perhaps if you don't want to be corrected on your grammar, you should stop using words like "purdy" and not using commas and periods. I am just saying.

 [I don't really have a witty comeback for this one. It didn't leave me speechless or anything. I am curious whether women actually believe this crap he is peddling and talk to him. Seriously? I'm so cute you want to marry me? Yeah, cause that could never go wrong.]

 [I don't even have words. Except WTF? Poor Agent Blue, she keeps getting these wonderful men wanting to wine and dine her.]


On another WTF note.... remember that guy from THIS blog? Yeah, he wrote me again...
"I take your silence as not being interested, which is fair enough. Write me if you reconsider."

No way I can leave this alone. You really thought a follow-up was necessary?
"Actually my silence is shock that you saw my profile and thought we'd mesh at all. I appreciate the interest, but I'm respectfully declining." 

I did not say any of what I would have had I responded a couple weeks ago. Heck, I didn't even say what I wanted to say now. Which is along the lines of WTF? I figure I need to rack up all the good OLD karma dating points I can in order to survive this mess with any sort of optimism about men and dating.

But seriously, WTF?

-PJ


You're good looking, want to chat?  

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It was a pretty quiet weekend. I don't consider that a bad thing though. I rather enjoyed the radio silence. That's not to say I didn't get any messages. I got a few. One was from okcupid. This guy sucked at conversation and I held in there is long as I could, but he just talked about himself and never asked me a question. Plus, he did not laugh at my jokes, so I am thinking he takes his work a little too seriously. Agent Blue got a couple gems as well.

A friend of mine and I were talking this weekend about OLD and he expressed his frustration with it (totally understandaable). He said he was talking with his friend about what women want. His friend said, "a man, not a boy." But as my friend pointed out, that is wholly subjective. So it got me thinking what I want in a guy. Hmmmm.

Funny - he has to be. Long after our looks fade, laughter will keep us young (and from getting bored).
Comfort/Safe - I want to feel totally comfortable and safe around my guy. I know this takes time, I don't expect it right away either. I just see what my siblings have with their spouses - they can be goofy and serious without fear of judgement. They are loved for who they are, all the crazy included.
Able to communicate - This is just a must. Healthy communication is the key to success in most relationships, romantic or otherwise. I am willing to accept that this may be a learned trait. I get it, not everyone is good at communicating at first.
Assertive - by nature, I am a leader. I am a doer. I want someone who is at that same level. Passive is a turn-off. Plus, I am tired of pursing guys. I want to be pursued, which often takes a certain level of assertiveness (and confidence).
Confident  - We all have our hang ups that make us kind of self-conscious, but an over-all sense of self confidence is super attractive.
Good Looking - No, I am not shallow, but if there is no physical appeal, usually there is no chemistry. Good looking, btw, does not mean by societies standards. It means by my own. Which vary from person to person anyway. I don't care if anyone else thinks they are good looking, I just want to think so.
Mature - This is the difference between a boy and a man. Are you still playing beer pong and going out to clubs every weekend? Are you blowing money on random shit or are you spending wisely and saving? Do you have more in your life than video games and eating junk? Stuff like this. I think it varies from person to person. I also think there is no one way a person is mature. It depends on who they are, what their journey through life has been like and what their life is like now.

That is not a bad list, I don't think. And I am flexible. These are not deal breakers because I understand people are always growing and changing. Someone can learn to communicate, or grow in self-confidence. People can cut their hair and shave their beard and that may do wonders to their image. Maturity can exist in one area of their life, but need development in another area. These are all fluid characteristics, I think. My deal breaks are:

1.) No current drug use (incl marijuana), no serious drinking problems
2.) Has to like dogs, since I now have one that will be with me for a very long time.
3.) Wants to get married (eventually) and wants kids
4.) Does not want to leave Colorado (my family is here, so I am here).


That's it. I think people are way too unique to put any other limits on the "ideal guy." A lot of good potential guys get looked over that way (women too, for that matter).

Now, a couple gems:

"Hey pretty I want to kiss those lips"  [um, thank you?]
"This rose is for you @}-----------------" [do you remember these old school roses from the days of AIM?I didn't think people even knew how to do these anymore, what with the wealth of emoticons everywhere]
"Hi. Your good looking want to chat" [I was so tempted to say, "You're not good looking. So no." But I was feeling nice that day.]
"Sooo beautiful (smiley emoticon with heart eyes)
  So stunning."  [Thank you. From 6,430 miles away.]
"If I pose naked for the art group will they let me cover up my penis?" [ummmm. what?]
"Hey, quick question :-)."Yes?" "Um how pretty are your feet ha." [well, I knew I'd run into a foot fetish eventually.]



 [Need I say more?]


 [Yes, that black spot is his number. A total stranger from a couple thousand miles away thought we could be good "friends" (based off nothing but my photo) and just gave me his number. I wonder if people actually ever text him.]


 [In  case you are wondering, those messages came in succession in about 3 minutes. Wow. Just. Wow.]



Hands down this is the best, and creepiest of the weekend. Poor Agent Blue. I know she says she doesn't mind and its funny, but seriously. She is a good catch, so why are all the guppies in her pond?

 [I find myself speechless. How can a guy ever think this is an appropriate message to begin with?]


I am beginning to think the bar approach would be better than this.

-PJ

Continuing to cuddle and other nefarious things  

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I am going to rant about men, cuddling, and sex. And pictures of penises. Multiple pictures.

And if that line sentence doesn't grab your attention, just wait until the last one.

I mentioned in another blog that I have noticed a trend in men lately - that trend being the increased comments that men love to "cuddle." On Skout I have had multiple people message me asking if I like to cuddle and they want to cuddle with me. On more appropriate websites (eharmony, match.com, okcupid), loving to cuddle is mentioned somewhere in the profile about 90% of the time. I spoke with two men about this, seeking out some male point of views. The first is from someone I met on okcupid and we have been talking (with actual real conversations, SHOCK!) for a couple weeks now. He is fairly intuitive and has a good handle on the views of society and himself. He says that I have noticed the trend because as I have gotten older, I am looking for men who have gotten older and as we age, our preferences change from just wanting physical sex and wanting more intimacy (i.e., cuddling) and that cuddling does not always equal sex. I don't entirely disagree with him. I think that is true of some older men, though I don't really know what age group that would be. I have not noticed the ages of everyone who has proposed cuddling or has it in their profile. I usually see ages 23-35. The other guy I talked to is in his late 20s and the only guy on Skout who is looking for friendship with no sexual undertones. Seriously. I found the one and only guy. So I asked him. And he said, "yeah, most guys use "cuddling" and sex synonymously. They obviously don't intend to merely cuddle. As such is the mentality of men. lol. I personally love to just cuddle........there probably aren't many men who do enjoy it just for cuddling," I think he sums it up well: guys use cuddling and sex synonymously. Stereotypically, women are the cuddlers, so if a guy's aim is sex, he just interchanges it with cuddling to reel in the woman. Mystery solved.

So, sometimes when I am bored I talk to people who message me on Skout. I am talking about the people who don't start out the conversation telling me I'm sooooo beautiful or they want to marry me or blah, blah, blah. Just the guys who say, "Hi" and don't appear to be pervs. Although I should underline appear, because sometimes they do end up being pervs. Can't win them all I guess. I also am chatting with Cuddle Buddy (a guy from one of my previous entries) cause he is actually pretty nice and we've had a couple good conversations. I chat with a guy from California as well because most of the time he is cool. With every conversation I have had this weel (incl. Cuddle Buddy and California), at some point they've shown me a picture of their penis. Why? Why? Why? Why? If I wanted to see it, I'd have asked. Last night California (28yrs old) said to me:

C: Mine was okay too. Nothing special. Now watching tv and wishing you were here [pardon me while I gag. what a line]
Me: Aw :-) What are you watching?
C: Game of Thrones
Me: Enjoying it?
C: yep yep.
Me: That's good :-)
C: I wouldn't mind being distracted from it though if you were here to cuddle with ;-) [roll eyes here]
Me: Lol, yes, it's too bad I am not
C: hmmm. What would we be doing sweetie?

And there it is. The fork in the road. I could make this go clean or dirty. Dirty is me saying we would be doing something sexual and I'd probably pull some scenario from one of the romance novels that Bananney has loaned me. I am 99.9% positive he'd send me a penis picture if I chose this road (a. because he before, and b. because all the guys want you to see how hard they are. I think it's a male pride thing). Or I could head in the cleaner direction and deflect the conversation to something safe. Which is what I did. Normally, I'd probably have gone the dirty way to see where it took me (well, I'd have meander about half way down that road until things got weird. I like social experiments until they get creepy; I do have limits). But after a couple of days of people being consistently creepy, I just couldn't take it anymore. So I replied, "Well, cuddling of course." That effectively ended the conversation (well, he gave an emoticon smile). Just like that, conversation over. Oh California. So, so predictable. Cuddle Buddy sent me a picture of his penis too and asked if I liked it. What am I supposed to say? No? It's a little small for my taste? Are you cold or something? Does it always hang to the left like that? Come on. Because of my annoyed state of mind, I did not answer him. This morning I asked him what his reaction would be if I said no. He laughed out loud and then said, "I would cry and call you a liar ;-)" So confident. He's lucky I am in a better mood, or else I would find some other remark that would burn a little and probably take a strike at his...manhood.

Here is the thing. I get that guys are horny and that sexting is a turn on and probably allows them a little material for their own...pleasure...but seriously. We are strangers. He would never show me his penis if we strangers and were face-to-face. That's a felony.

The Internet allows us to live dangerously. Anonymity bolsters confidence and lets us be whomever we want. He doesn't know if I am who I said I am. What if I am really a 16 year old girl who had some brilliant idea to try Skout out and sext with people? He could get in a world of trouble if that were the case and someone found out and reported it. I think this is more of a  guy thing, but my chatting buddy assures me women have texted him looking for sexting too. Maybe I am old fashioned, but I think body parts should stay in the pants until you're dating and have reached a point where both parties want to play show and tell. 

Anyway, Skout has been trying my patience a little. Guys think they are so smooth. They are not.

Agent Blue got two messages. The last one will leave you speechless. No. Seriously. It left me speechless.


 [In case you're wondering. Blue's 5th picture in her profile is a picture of her at the Grand Canyon, Talk about an Epic Fail. I can't think of a single woman on this planet that would reply to that with a enthusiastic YES!]


In this second message, I cannot tell if this guy is kidding or being serious (which, given my recent experiences, seems totally possible). In either case it is a fantastic example of an







Now....enjoy. Go ahead......




Speechless. I know.


-PJ








Best Lines Ever  

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I am sorry about all the formatting issues in my last entry. I don't usually see my blog from a visitor's point of view, so I had no idea it was formatting weird. Anyway, so today I am just posting pictures with commentary. Nothing has been going on at okcupid that's worth blogging about. Skout, as always, is keeping Agent Blue and I entertained. So, hopefully you'll be entertained as well. We will start with Agent Blue's:

 [Well, since I'm your type...yes.]

 [I told her to reply, I don't know if she did or not. Now I wonder, what exactly screams, "I'm good in bed?" (ha ha, pun intended). Is it the innocent looking picture or something in the fairly simple profile? Or is it just a guy shoveling shit in hopes he'll get laid? I am sure it's the latter. Cause hey, if he had contacted me and said this.....I'd for sure go out with him. Never.]

 [Ahh, so sweet. That's true love.]

 [Ha ha. Oh man. I wish she would of replied. I would have loved to see his answer. I wonder if this actually ever works. And really, Fuck off? Guess this guy has had some lady troubles...I don't know why. I certainly think he is prince charming.]



Here are mine from the past few days:

 [I don't even know what to say. I've been complimented on my smile a million times before, but I don't think anyone has ever said this (or any version of this) to me. Ever. Nice way to try and stand out. But...Epic Fail.]


 [No I don't. I think the age line only works in bars  and restaurants when staff is looking for a good tip. And even then all women know the person's full of shit.]

 [Yes. Yes I do mind. But hey. at least he asked. Twice. Although it was after he already called me babe, so what is the point of asking at all?]

 [Um....... thank you?]

 [At least he asked. And when I replied no he didn't harass me. I guess that makes him only kind of sleazy]

 [Well, this just got awkward.]

 [Yes, I would love to be you Queen. Now, cake or death? - ha ha, sorry, only a few people will get that (Eddie Izzard fans), but I couldn't resist.]


Oh men. You're just so...clueless.
- PJ


The overuse of emoticons and other things you probably shouldn't say  

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For the record, I have gone out on a few dates so far. A couple have even been fun (shocking, I know).  And if I am to blog about the bad, its only fair I blog about the good. So here is the good. Two guys, we'll call them Regis and the Behaviorist, have caught my eye. We've been talking pretty regularly. Regis and I have been on two pretty successful dates. I know I like him as a person and I don't mind sharing my limited free time with him - so I think that means something. Are the sparks? Chemistry? I don't know yet. I'm on the fence. I'm hoping some clarity will come soon. The other guy: the Behaviorist, sounds like a cool guy. More than cool, he actually sounds a lot like me, the good parts, anyway. We haven't met yet and I know all too well that sometimes what's on paper isn't truly representative of real life. But I remain cautiously optimistic.

But we all know the reason for this blog is to share the absurdities of the online dating world. I mean, that is the entertaining part after all. And I will not disappoint today because I have a couple of gems to share. These are all from Skout (things have slowed down at okcupid)

Wow [enter my name here, which he spelled wrong, btw] you are beautiful (13 emoticons of kissing lips).  Another message a little later on that day with 3 more emoticon kissing lips. 
Then: "me gustaria hacerte el amor" which translates into: "I would like to make love to you" [apparently he thought it sounds better in Spanish].

How about this one:
I'm sure I am "out of your league" but I'm not here for all that just looking to chat so if you ever wanna talk get to know one another hit me up." [If you’re not looking for that, why does it matter what ‘league’ I am in? And more than that, don’t call attention to yourself like that! You are show casing with big bright flashing lights the fact that you have flaws. Not really the best first impression. Also, when you say these things you are telling the person you aren’t confident – a big turn off for most everyone].

-and-

Hey pretty how are you doing hope your having a great day you really look so gorgeous I will like to know you better. [Is punctuation a lost art? No seriously. Is it?]

Hey how r u? U r pretty cute and would like to get to know u if you wanna do the same, just hit me back :-) [I hate text speak. It drives me crazy. U should b less lazy and just type it out. And for crying out loud, use periods and commas!]

Now how about some messages with a little interaction:

Him: "Waw. I like woman fat and have belly."
Me: "I doubt women enjoy being called fat though, so you might rethink your approach." [Sheesh.  Seriously? Women rarely like being called fat. The whole "BBW" name was invented because it is soooo much better then saying, “Hey fat girl. I love the extra poundage. Let’s have sex!”]
Him: "yeah I know. I like ur body."
Me:
"Thanks. I think."


Him: "Hey would you give me an honest rating out of 10 if I send you a pic obviously. lol."
Me: "Um, I guess? [Because how can I not see where this goes? In all honesty, I was thinking it was going to be an inappropriate picture (you all know the body part I am talking about), but it didn't up being that. It was an entirely appropriate picture of him (a solid 7, btw). I am getting cynical…or perhaps I just know the kind of people this app attracts. Of course I assume all things sexual.]
Him: "Are open minded? ..... I have a different kinda fantasy, might make you laugh." [And there it is. Sexual fantasies; I knew it would be something sexual. Oh I am looking forward to this...But I'm just scared you might judge me or make fun of me for it." [I would never judge someone for their personal preferences! Well, never to their face anyway. But on the mocking block, all bets are off]
Me: "I see. Well, you'll never know until you say it."
Him: "Ok well I love it when white people are racist to me." [wait. what?] "it actually turns me on. I firmly believe that whites are the superior race and have my reasons, but yeah it also turns me on.” [Well, that was unexpected] It took me a long time to come up with a reply. I mean, what does one say to that? I went for diplomatic and told him that was a unique fantasy I’d never hear of before. And then I blocked him.

One more of mine: 

 [Just looking at my eyes. Wow. I wonder if I showed him other body parts what would happen.]

Here are a couple from Agent Blue. I think this one is from Okcupid:

 [A nice round plump booty. Well, I suppose that's a compliment. For someone. But its good to know he isn't just asking because of the booty. He likes her insides too.]


[Who needs to talk at all when you can be friends with benefits? Or better yet...silent friends with benefits.]

 [Agent Blue told me to relay that all of these messages came one right after the other. She didn't even have time to respond to the first hello. Good god man, calm down!]

Another friend of mine (Agent Sparkle) will also be contributing material. We are branching out though because she isn't doing online dating, but real life dating. Nightclubs, bars....all the great places for inappropriate men to converge and harass women. It will be exciting. I will write her stories soon.


 OLD never disappoints. Ever.

-PJ

OLD Public Service Announcement  

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The other day I talked to a 13 year old girl who met a man online. He asked her to send him pictures of herself naked and videos of herself (doing what, I'm not sure). And she did. He said he was 15 years old. She said they were "dating." She bought him a knife online and shipped it to his house because he asked her to. Luckily for her, her mother found out about this "teen romance" and put a stop to it. It remains unclear if this Washington resident is actually 15 years old. God I hope so. 


This is scary stuff. We are so used to the Internet that we forget it is anonymous. Anyone could be anyone. Dating sites like Tinder, Skout, Kik are so easy to sign up for...it is so easy to become someone else. In fact, a guy on Skout messaged me the other day and said, "Hey baby. I had to get a new account. What's up?" On Skout (and almost every other dating website or app) you can block a user so they can never contact you again, but this guy proves how easy it is to just sign up again. And it's terrifyingly easy (casual encounters on Craig's List have never seemed so horrific!).

I will even admit I have gotten kind of relaxed on these applications. I talk to people without considering that they are impostors. I don't give out personal information, but still, I am not mindful of the truth either: I could be talking to anyone. Anyone. I have made this point before - it's a killer's haven. A gigantic pond with unlimited fish. And it's so easy to go fishing. I am almost 30 years old and I know this and sometimes forget. Imagine how easy it is to reel in a 13 year old.

I was going to share some messages today, but I think it is so important to preface any OLD activity with a PSA that the Internet is indeed an anonymous place and people can be fooled so easily. You have to be careful. You have to be smart. You cannot allow the idea of romance and love let you get carried away and forget the danger that being online presents.

The Safety Rules of OLD:
  • Always meet in a safe, public place for the first few times. 
  • Don't put yourself into a compromising position by drinking too much alcohol and losing not only your inhibitions, but your judgment and ability to get away if necessary. 
  • Talk to the person on the phone before you meet up. It's harder (but not impossible) to fake a phone call.
  • Never give out your home address before you've met the person face-to-face.
  • Always, always, tell someone all the details of the date beforehand and make sure to text/call them when the date is over.
  • Listen to your gut. If something feels off, it probably is. 

This girl is 13 years old. And she thinks she is in love with him and is devastated that she can never speak to him again. It sounds like puppy love and the teenage brain gone awry, but it can happen at any age. The right person says the right thing and suddenly you forget that the Internet is filled with creepy people who are predators in some way and want to take advantage of you somehow. So whether you are 13 or 30, it's important to be safe.

So all my OLD comrades, be smart and help you protect yourself.
Your life could be on the line.

-PJ

Wanna be my cuddle buddy?  

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I did it. I joined Skout. How could I not? How could I not take the opportunity to see what it was all about (and lets be honest...mock it)? Surprisingly, I have met a couple people and had decent conversations with them. Like nice, normal conversations. But onto the romance of Skout...I have been keeping a tally of all the locations people have messaged me from and their ages. The youngest is 20, the oldest 47. Quite a few Coloradians (as expected) and other areas include:

Texas, Nebraska, Arizona, West Virgina, Indiana, New Mexico, California, Missouri, Alabama, and  Minnesota...in the US. Outside of the US, Great Britain (4,677 mi), Urla, Turkey (6,230 mi), Tiwain (7,128 mi), Khyber-Pakhtunkwa (7,328 mi), Yanam, India (8,491mi), and Hat Yai, Thailand (8,806 mi). Why? Why would you even message someone so far away? Well, of course I asked someone...lets see, this guy is from... Khyber-Pakhtunkwa...and he says,"your beautiful smile bring me to talk to u. lol I mean i came on skout for soul mat search in west in white race. its my wish and dream...." so, mystery solved. He wants to find his soul mate and he is confident its a white girl who will take a chance on someone 7,000 miles away. Cause that's not at all creepy. He has high hopes, I think.

I've had one risque message to my picture. This isn't a family-rated blog, so on-lookers beware....even I had a jaw dropping moment after reading (although after Romeo the other day, I'm not sure why)...



Why would you say that to a complete stranger? Holy Hell. For background, he is here on a business trip and has a hotel room. He thought I might like to come over for a little tryst. How lovely huh? It gets even better because he messaged me twice, under two different names. He was kind enough to include a picture both times. Seriously. Do you hit on so many women that you can't remember if you talked to one already? I mean, really? And under two different names. That's just creepy.

Someone else messaged me in Spanish.  I am pretty sure it roughly translated into "Hi beautiful girl, how are you?" At least I hope that's what it translated into. My Spanish is rusty (and mostly consists of ingredients at Taco Bell), but it was a simple enough sentence. I think.

Agent Blue got a couple good ones today that are worth a mention:


Um...what?


This one is a keeper. I told Agent Blue to jump on this, but for some reason she deleted it. Huh. Weird.

It's hard to walk away from Skout. It's like looking at a car crash...it's so awful, but you just can't turn away. I find it fascinating. The things guys will say.... just blows my mind sometimes. Here is a thing: I have noticed a BIG trend at Skout (and even the regular dating websites now that I think of it) is that all the guys love cuddling now. I mean, all the profiles say, "I love to cuddle" or some variation of that. A guy on skout asked if I want to be his cuddle buddy....

You need a cuddle buddy?
lol. Is that like FWB only the benefits are cuddling?
Lol. Bingo. Ha ha.
Lol. That's what you are looking for on here. Cuddles?
Love a good cuddle and the warmth of a beautiful woman's body pressed tight up against mine. At 6'4 I make a great big spoon. lol.

Well, that's good to know. I'll make sure to file that away under "useless information guys say thinking it is smooth." Another guy asked me if I am a cuddler. Lol. That was his great opening line: "Are you a cuddler." He is from California, so unless we share a really big bed, that's just not going to work. Although he is also tall. And he was sure to mention that too. 6'5. So, sorry to 6'4...you were just beat out. I am only going for the really tall guys now.

I also got asked out on a date within 5 minutes of starting a conversation. That's a record for me. And considering this guy said, "Its nice to actually get a response" I am guessing he doesn't do so well with the ladies. Perhaps a little over eager.

Yes, it's all about the conversation here on Skout. I've called quite a few people out tonight:

"hello honey girl. Looking serious relationship.
And how does that work when you are six thousand miles away?
But I like you. 
You don't even know me. Liking me is impossible... very awkward silence...and no response).

At least it is entertaining. But by no means a viable option for actual dating. Maybe hooking up. Which seems wholly stupid of people to do. Just offer themselves so freely. I mean, this is a serial killer's paradise. Why don't you just stick the knife in yourself and call it a day? Sheesh.

Try as I might, I will never understand the Skout world. But it was an interesting experiment to say the least. Don't worry. It's not over. I am sure someone will send a gem of a message to either me or Agent Blue. And then we will pass it along to you.

Until then,
-PJ

For a good time call....  

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I got a lot of response from my last blog. Most had the same reaction I did. One of my favorite people for challenging me with the exact opposite opinion of what I believe suggested I get onto more serious dating websites. I see his point. For the record, I am on Match and I just signed up for eharmony. So, we'll see. It'll be interesting to compare the three.

After Romeo contacted me for a good time with lots of gentle, intimate conversation, for fun I went to Craigslist and looked in the casual encounter ads. What else is out there? Well, let me tell you (so you don't have to go experience it for yourself. Ever.). There are some normal ones, you know, some variation of "for a good time call..." And then there are the...more risque ones. A lot of ads for BJs, which I never thought would be the case. And mostly they were like: "We meet, go to my car, you give me a BJ and then walk away. Forever." Some guy described a whole scene in his. It sounded like a poorly written romance novel. Another was an exhibitionist who said he'd open the door naked. Yeesh. And then there were the ones with pictures. Oh. My. God. Why would you ever post a picture of any private body part just open for the WHOLE WORLD to see? Don't you know once it's out there on the Internet it is out there forever??? Interestingly enough (for those of you who appreciate statistics): the most posts were M4M (male for male), there were more F4M than I expected and ALL of the ads w/pictures were from males (sexual preference did not seem to matter) . That last one doesn't surprise me at all. The lingo is interesting too. It's very obvious who is new to posting on CL and who has been at it a while. It's like a whole culture. I feel like its the new way to pimp yourself out. I wonder if the prostitution trade has been affected - after all, why pay someone when people are really willing to just give it away for free?  And I mean really willing. There were a lot of married people asking for casual flings, which I find disgusting. I mean, you're single and want a no strings attached relationship encounter, fine. But when you are married, that is just not okay. There were a lot of FWB ads....of course, its not so really much friends with benefits as it is strangers with benefits....

Ahem.

A friend of mine is in the dating scene too. To protect her identity (as I always strive to do), we'll call her Agent Blue (her code-name choice, lol). Agent Blue was telling me about this app called "Skout" Its a dating app that finds people with in a certain mile radius as you and then you can connect via instant message (or they can send you a virtual gift, which is...weird). Although, Agent Blue tells me it is really international and she has received messages from over 3,000 miles away. Yes, because I want to engage in a relationship with some guy from another country. That makes a whole lot of sense. Apparently it has been around since 2007, but when I mentioned I'd never heard of it, Agent Blue said, "that's because it's nothing special. I don't even take it seriously." And how could she? With messages like this:



And in case you are wondering, that fuzzy picture is him, sending a picture of himself with his shirt off. Classy. Based on his looks, I'd 7.) Run away. Now, why wasn't that an option? I guess this guy has a lot of confidence in himself, though, according to Agent Blue, he wasn't even good looking ("He was like, anorexic"). Still better is the foot fetish guy:


Now come on. Really? I can think of a hundred different ways to introduce to someone that you have a foot fetish. All of them less creepy than this. But putting that aside, you are supposed to be IMPRESSING someone. So at the very least take out, "but no one understands me." and definitely leave out, "I know you will not answer and understand but please help me. im cute i swear. Help me? Why is he asking for help??? And really? 'Im cute, I swear.' With this message "cute" just isn't going to help you. I don't even think "smokin hot" would do the trick.

I think my favorite (though that last one was hard to top) is this one:


Oh, why? Why, why. why, why?  Agent Blue was nice enough to just not respond. Now, had it been me, I would have probably responded just to see where this went. A social experiment of sorts. "I just want to talk dirty...." really? Ah, well, it would make for an interesting blog anyway.

I'm considering getting an account. Not for serious reasons, because no. But, you know, just to see what I find. Agent Blue will contribute some more as she gets them. She has even mentioned a few dating stories that might get shared too. They sound like gems.


OLD just keeps getting better and better.

PJ












"Just Looking for Causal Sex"  

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The problem with having a conversation is that both people must be involved if it is to go anywhere. My problem this weekend is that every guy I am chatting with lets me lead the conversation, That is not really the problem though, I am pretty used to that - the problem is they answer my question, but don't ask anything back. So I respond to their answer, learn something about them, and hit my head against the wall. It is hard to have a genuine conversation that way, or feel like they are interested in learning about me at all. I would chalk it up to being "a guy thing" except there are men who are able to have a reciprocal conversations and have done so with me. I don't know. I consider it a lack of interest. Perhaps that's not true, but I feel like there is probably enough truth in it to say adios to those who cannot seem to have a normal conversation. It really isn't rocket science and to be honest, I am sick of trying so hard to do something that should really be simple.

And one more thing. It seems to me that most guys assume that ALL girls get multitudes of messages every day in their inbox. I read a guy's profile  who said that he doesn't message any woman because he knows they get so many messages every day. He said if a woman is interested she should message him because he isn't going to do it (even if he is interested) and she'll know he is interested if he replies. He said he won't even do those winks, which is a simple click of a button. I find this profoundly annoying. Because it is not true and does not happen for all women. And some would be happy to get a message once in awhile. This was true of me for many years. Heck, it's still true, even though I do get more messages than I have in the past. If you are interested in someone, you have to take a chance. You can't be worried about being just another fish in the pond. And if that is your worry, then you have to work at standing out (preferably in a genuine, non-creepy way). I think saying you have to message me is a cop out for not having to try or put yourself out there. I think it also means he doesn't take rejection well.

But to the more important material...


I did get the OLD version of a booty call this weekend. Saturday night, after 11:30pm, this guy I've barely talked to (because he can't hold up his end of the conversation, surprise, surprise) text me and asked if I wanted to come over for drinks and to 'watch a movie.' And when I said no (citing bad roads, cause it was snowing), he asked if I wanted him to come over there. Really? Do men even have to think about safety? There is no way I am meeting a man for the first time at his home, or inviting him into my own. I think that's OLD safety rule #1. Do men not have to play by the same rules? And do I overlook the obvious boot call that this was?

My blog would not be complete if I did not put up my favorite profile of the week. This guy wrote me this message:

First off, I do not live in Vancouver, I live in Boulder and I only keep my profile isolated for boring professional reasons. With that being said, you are obviously quite fun in ways which I happen to like very much, and I think that you and I have a considerable amounts to discuss. You seem like you give very few fucks while living responsibly-enough for your preferences [really? very few fucks?]; I live similarly, and see that trait in those who have it. You also seem to lack my apathy, which is a good for you because it gets in the way of life at times, admittedly [um....thank you?]. If I have your attention so far, I would love to get it more [done and done, because how can I walk away now?]. Incidentally, I also posted a Craigslist post which you may or may not have seen [um, we are on okcupid, not craigslist. Why would I look there?].  [he gives the link]. ...and I would love to hear your thoughts on it. [Oh, I seriously doubt that]

So, before I go to his Craigslist profile, I check out his okcupid profile. It's a gem, it really is. My favorite part:

And I do not particularly care what you feel about how you look, or how you feel about what I look like. Personality, demeanour, characteristics and non-work interests are what I like most in others. Just leave if your idea of a compelling message is "ur hot" etc [on one hand I get it, on the other hand...find a better way to say it]. And my favorite line comes at the end under the You Should Message Me If.... section.... Write me with substance or do not write me at all.

It says he replies frequently, so there must be a lot of girls out there writing him with substance. Or something. I don't even really know what that means. Especially given this next part. Now, let's talk about his Craigslist profile because Oh. My. God. Admittedly, I did not look at it until about 5 minutes ago. His message and profile were enough to keep me away (but after reading his message again for this post, curiosity got the better of me). Had I seen it then, I would have posted this when I first got the message last week. That's how awesomingly disturbing this is. Perfect blog material.

"As per the title [Wanting A BBW to objectify :) - m4w - 29], I am looking for a BBW to objectify. There would be much face-fucking and come everywhere, although far more could/should happen beyond just that--unless that is solely what you want.  Our "relationship" of sorts would be casual at most, although I am by no means averse to regularly meeting. I am 29, tall, in good shape, with tattoos, drug - and disease free; as for you, age is negotiable, and I want you to be curvy, very open-minded, and also drug-disease-free. Generally submissive and fetish-friendly preferred, but this is not entirely required. If you are this kind of woman and this sounds like your kind of fun, write me. My photo for yours. This is preferred to be a longer-term relationship of sorts, and not just a one-time meeting. Finally, I take "BBW" to mean enjoyable curvy, and is not meant as an insult to those with a body type I happen to appreciate."

And he actually wanted my thoughts on this. Oh, he just has no idea what he is asking. I have read and re-read my profile to see if I, in any kind of way, suggest that I would be a person who would go for this sort of thing. The idea that I would willingly allow anyone to objectify me is laughable. It's actually audibly laughable. The fact that he considers me fun in "ways in which I happen to like very much" makes me a little worried about what my profile is saying, given what he considers "fun." And I am not quite sure how he thinks we have anything to discuss. My profile, which is short and sweet, does CLEARLY state, "Please don't message me if you are in an open-relationship, are just looking for casual sex, or do not live in the state of Colorado." So given that his CL ad is basically an ad for causal sex, I just don't see how that says to him in any way, "Please, message me." Cause that seems like a good idea. I get that there are people out there who just want casual sex (with or without the submission/fetishes). I respect it. Everyone has their thing. But I think that if you are going to steer someone in the direction of your ad (instead of them wandering to it because that's what they are looking for), you should probably have a good idea about whether or not they share such interests. Which I clearly don't. And by "clearly" I mean it is insanely obvious by the profile I wrote specifically detailing that.

Just when I was sure OLD couldn't get any weirder. Or more disturbing.

PJ


Lesson #44: Confidence  

Posted by Plain Jane in , ,

One of the most important things about dating is having confidence. This is true whether it is online or in real life. I don't think I have ever met a person who did not find confidence appealing (well, except for bullies and abusers, who seek out the meek on purpose). People rarely realize how revealing their profiles are. I can tell you 9 times out of 10 if a guy (or girl) is confident based on how they write their profile, the pictures they post, and the messages they send. I think it's important to keep that in mind when you're entering the world of OLD.

This guy messaged me about a week ago. It was a slow beginning. Hi. Hi. How are you? I'm good, how are you? blah blah blah....

...until his message: What do you think of my profile? That question was kind of sandwiched in between two other messages, so I didn't answer it. So we chat a little more about books and nieces and nephews and then...

How are you? What do you think of me? Well, buddy, I think I hardly know you. What the hell else am I supposed to say? You're the man of my dreams? My life wasn't complete until you came along? I think you're really awesome? No. I've known you about 5 seconds.

Confidence! Don't ask me what I think of you. It shouldn't matter - you should be content enough in your life without a love interest so that you want one, not need one. So if chatting me up doesn't work out, then it doesn't work out, no big deal. That kind of attitude shows confidence in who you are, what you're worth, and what you want. Let me show you my interest by talking to you and getting to know you. Don't ask me what I think of you. That screams "I need validation" which does not suggest confidence at all.

I went to with tactful response ("I don't really know you well enough to have a solid opinion of you, but I like the fact that Hatchet is your favorite book and you like hanging out with your family"), but already I am less enthused about talking to him. But, because I know people can by shy or just not very articulate in their thoughts (and feelings), I'm going to continue to conversation. He hasn't said anything that would really make me say adios yet.

Of course, the mocking block wouldn't be complete without some continuous commentary on the messages I get that are....well, you'll see...:

"Super prudy profile pics you have a wonderful smile :-)"  - Well, I can forgive the lack of punctuation, but "super purdy." Really? I mean, really? Come on.

Bottom line here: Confidence is sexy. It's what gets people interested in you. And if you aren't confident now, fake it until you make it. You'll get there.


PJ

More Attractive Results  

Posted by Plain Jane in , ,

I just wanted to share this. It came to my inbox this morning and I found it incredibly amusing (and somewhat offensive).


Wow. I feel better now knowing that okcupid's dating pool has looked at five photos of me and found me hot. That's excellent. Surely I'll get a date now. And apparently I'll get dates with equally attractive people. It's like I'm part of the "In" crowd. Look out dating world - hot girl approaching.


PJ

Lesson #322: The Overuse of Compliments  

Posted by Plain Jane in ,

The world of OLD is as interesting as ever. I have been talking to many men, but only one left a lasting impression. Unfortunately, it did not work out how I wish it had. I guess that's just par for the course online. Or in dating, in general I suppose.

But on to the next.....

I got a message from this guy, "Hey your profile is very interesting to me. You seem very grounded which I find very attractive. I believe we are looking for the same things. We should definitely chat and go from there. [if only he had stopped there] I've also noticed that you are a Gemini women and I an Aquarius man. Let's see what the starts say about us...we're supposed to be a great fit." Really? Really? Either he looked it up, which was just a bad idea, or he already knew this, which I find weird. Nonetheless,  I can forgive that last line. I can. I mean, people try (but usual fail) to be witty and rememberable in their messages; stand out from the crowd. It's the line is his profile that
really makes him stand out, though not as he hopes, I think. Under the "I'm Really Good At" section: "Flirting with my date. Cooking. Romance.....geek by day, rockstar by night. I'm also really good at sex and pleasuring my partner." Yes, that last line really shows your romantic side.

This other guy wrote out the lyrics to "Take Your Time" by Sam Hunt (and then "modified by [name] to make you smile." It was...unique. And then a day later (because I had yet to respond to Song Guy), he writes me a very, very long message. Which, wasn't bad, but was kind of cheesy.

The highlights:
"I was about to say you had a great smile. But then I knew it would not truly convey all I was thinking, so I would go on to say that your eyes look amazing too. This would have led me to say your hair being as great as the past two compliments. But then what if I was asked if that was all? [who would ever really ask that?]. I just could not leave anything out. So I would need to sum it up with WOW.........Well, I was just going to stop here [God, I really wish you had], but I was just remembering how the whole note passing thing we did as kids was significantly easier than a long email like this. So I thought I would try that too [you think to much]: If you like me check the box
YES [_]  NO [_]  MAYBE [_].   I remember the good old times when this is all it took to know if a cute girl liked you. I miss how easy we had it. [Well, you made it hard on yourself by composing new lyrics to a song and then writing a long email. A simple message would have sufficed.]

Hmmm. Well, I did write him back. A for effort and all. Nothing came of it though.

The other one I am featuring is this: "You are absolutely stunning and you have the most beautiful smile and amazing eyes I have ever seen in my life and whether I hear from you or not pleasure know that you're smile have made my night for the fact that there's a girl out there to have this natural type of beauty and please keep smiling and have a wonderful day. I would love and be honored to get to know you. Thank you again.

Holy hell. First of all, would punctuation kill you? I mean seriously. Second, talk about laying on the compliments. Guys like this mean well, I am [almost] sure, but this just seems totally insincere. The most beautiful smile and amazing eyes I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE??? The guy is 36 years old. In all his 36 years I really have the most beautiful smile and amazing eyes? Really? I might believe it more if the past 10 guys had not said just about the exact same thing.

I like compliments as much as the next person, but I don't want to here how I have the best or most amazing of anything. Why? Well because we are online and not in person. I could have photo shopped any number of things on a picture to be appealing. Hell, even in person, it's a bit of a stretch. Perhaps I'm a cynic. But there are ways to be original and convey you like the way I look without giving me every compliment you think I want to hear. Maybe some girls go for that, or even need it, but I am not one of them. Pick one compliment. And don't make it sound like I have the best whatever. Just keep it simple. You'll have a better chance of impressing me that way.


Better luck next time boys.

PJ